COLTS IN FREE FALL!

speaker-0: Welcome in folks to another edition of Who's Your Beef? This is the General alongside Slick. And boy, the Colts take another loss at the hands of the Dallas Cowboys today. Had all the chances in the world, but yet again we come away with another loss. That's the Colts' fifth loss in a row. And seems like the hits just keep on coming. Slick, what do you say? Who's your beef with today?

speaker-1: It's hard to say. The Cowboys really tried to beat themselves today. They really did. They handed us the game on a platter and Shane Steichen and crew said, Not so fast, my friend. And we pissed it away once and again. Clearly the team has taken a big hit in the locker room mentally. You look at Josh Downs today, he's clearly checked out two very uncharacteristic drops. It just doesn't look like there's any motivation there except maybe for the young guys. It was cool to see CJ Allen being in the doghouse earlier this year. All of a sudden he's wearing the green dot and he played really good today. We saw a lot too sighting. Maybe he's got some some joy. We saw Tomy, Attabore cranking through his extension already with some good play, but there's just no fire in this team. I'll put my beef on other segments of this episode, but just Absolutely terrible.

speaker-0: Fair enough. Fair enough. I told you earlier, my beef is with Josh Downs. This guy has got to go. As you said, the chemistry of this team is dead. We I do think we traded Buck and Nelson too early. Buckner maybe not. Nelson, I think there's definitely an argument for you for it there. But Josh Downs, I think I touched on it last week or even the week before. How does this guy have any trade bargaining? He's gonna go to Dodds and Carly saying he wants out. What has he actually done for the Colts? You tell me what he's really done for the Colts. The guy hasn't caught a touchdown pass this year. He's dropping passes today and he just totally unfocused. And it looks like that's a carry over to a lot of the other players.

speaker-1: He's a very good at what his role would be. He'd be really good on a good team that already had established receivers, which I think is why he's shine when Pierce was going deep. Pittman was your intermediate guy. And then Downs was your low third down guy. And then we add in Warren and you're thinking, We really got something. And it just didn't click. It clicked for half a year last year. So we're relying on Downs rookie season, which was really good. His second year statistically was a little bit better, but The the downs today was on the Cowboys. His brother had a a great game, including that game ending pick. And he did. And I don't know if you saw it right before we start recording, but in his presser he said the trade talks w did affect his performance. And as a professional, that's unacceptable. I don't want someone like that on my team.

speaker-0: Absolutely unacceptable. And I would be very shocked if you don't see him move tomorrow or before the deadline on Tuesday. I think he needs to go, especially if the Colts can get a third or fourth rounder. I don't right off hand remember what round we picked him in to you. I believe it was maybe the third or fourth. So hey, if that's what you're gonna get for him, get that in return.

speaker-1: I don't know if we get that for him. I think that he's worth a six at this point.

speaker-0: Yeah, as of right now, the Colts dropping five in a row. Obviously, I don't think this train's getting back on the track this season. So we've already traded two big pieces. It remains to be seen whether Jonathan Taylor is gonna go, but he had a massive fumble. He didn't.

speaker-1: Do ourselves any favors today.

speaker-0: In the fourth quarter, only thirteen totes of the rock for forty six total yards in the ball game for J.

speaker-1: Especially when his backup looks pretty damn good.

speaker-0: We may have found a good one. So that begs the question. Yeah, they s they claim the Giants pulled their offer of two seconds and a fifth off the table, but the Giants didn't look too impressive today, even though they did win. And I believe Scataboo was out near the deadline. You just never know what happens.

speaker-1: Yeah, so we'll see who's desperate enough. Maybe it's the Bengals, maybe it's the Vikings. Maybe we lower our price. May we keep But with what his wife's putting out there on Instagram, that's not by accident. I think he's ready to go. Otherwise he'd be shutting that down. And let's talk about the game. I wanted to lead with how boring this team is, and it was. But then the second half happened, and I'll tell you what, I had a lot of fun watching that second half whilst it went on. We throw in Ashton Doolin on a little bubble screen. He goes 55 yards. Track star, great to see him back out there. And then you got that crazy CeeDee Lamb stuff. What was that? A rookie mistake by Harris. Doesn't touch him when he's down. And then CeeDee gets up. It looks exactly like you remember that Monday night football Antonio Freeman play that started that whole thing back in the nineties. Brett Favre and overtime. No one touches him, gets up, scores a touchdown. Same sideline, look exactly the same way. And then CeeDee gets hit. He goes down, fingers hit, ball comes loose, we grab it, just how you draw it up. What do you think about that? Huh? I thought we had a real shot. So the Cowboys end up with 14 penalties, 153 yards. They have a strip sec, which Latu caused. That was Curry's second fumble recovery in a couple games. And then we get that turnover that CeeDee does. The last time a team lost. With that many penalties, that many penalty yards and two turnovers, Christmas Eve two thousand twenty three, Jets beat the commanders. How about that? Can't

speaker-0: I don't know, but

speaker-1: make this stuff up. Every week we got a new trend with this team. A new loss.

speaker-0: I don't know whether to be impressed, unimpressed, none neither of the above, but fourteen penalties for a hundred and fifty three yards, two turnout,

speaker-1: They tried to beat themselves all.

speaker-0: and you still lose, win, whatever you want to call it, if you're coming from the Cowboys or Colts perspective. Just absolutely ridiculous. One once again. The Spencer Schrader getting back on track. What a 60 yarder and a 50 yarder. I think that 60 yarder would have been good from about six.

speaker-1: Deep weapon, man.

speaker-0: Unbelievable. Yeah. This team is like you mentioned with Downs, team is missing Alec Pierce, something fierce. And I know I brought it up to you during the game, Tyler Warren, zero targets in the first half.

speaker-1: Why do you what do you end up with? Two?

speaker-0: Why yeah, I think he had what one

speaker-1: Yeah.

speaker-0: one catch, two catches. Why is arguably your second best weapon on the team barely involved in the ball game? Why?

speaker-1: You know who our our last two first round picks were are?

speaker-0: Warren and

speaker-1: Latu. Latu. Invisibles. And then we traded away the next two. That's how you done that's how you stay in NFL purgatory right there. Draft two guys that are invisible during games and then give away the next two. Good job, Ballard. Good job. Talk

speaker-0: What's

speaker-1: about how sad both these franchises are. Do you remember Brian in Whitestown that we had on a couple weeks ago? He's got season tickets. He's got four season tickets. The other couple he goes with sometimes doesn't go and he ends up selling them, right? So he this was one of those games. He's thinking, Cowboys are in town, these things will sell easy. He said if you would have listed them in the preseason, you probably could have got I forget what section he's in, but he could have got 300 apiece for him. Okay.

speaker-0: Okay.

speaker-1: He sold them yesterday. He got two twenty five total. Two tickets.

speaker-0: Total total total.

speaker-1: And he's stuck with two dolphins tickets next week. Ho hoying people to go to the game.

speaker-0: Leek Willis and the vaunted Miami Dolphins.

speaker-1: Dude, can you imagine if we somehow lose to the Titans and the Dolphins at home this year? I can. And it's like they're only two wins.

speaker-0: Yeah. Hey, I mean the the the Dolphins gave the Lions a hell of a fight today. I think they lost end up losing like nineteen to nine or something like that. But hey, the clips I saw of that game, they were they entered picked off golf and were kind of shutting Gibbs down a little bit. So at this point, I won't be a bit surprised if we lose the rest of the games. I doubt that'll happen. But pending what happens by four o'clock in the trade deadline on Tuesday. And what's left of this roster might be a skeleton roster. You might see Anthony Richardson a quarterback. Hell been r rumors. Dude, if one of these teams wants Daniel Jones, if they seriously want Daniel Jones and the Colts don't want to move him, something is wrong with this organization.

speaker-1: Well, we already know something's wrong with the organization.

speaker-0: We do. I think we ridd the biggest piece of the the problem in Chris Ballard, but Shane Steichen, I just like I said last week and the week before, whatever, I feel like a broken record. Guy's gotta go back to just being an offensive coordinator. He is not a leader. Daniel Jones is not a leader. Taylor tries to be, but he's so s soft spoken. Taylor's more of a soft spoken guy.

speaker-1: Zero. We got Franklin left. The leadership is over. Buckner left. Quentin was a silent leader. He's gone. He got no one. Sauston's gonna step up. He sucks anyway.

speaker-0: Hey, how about sauce getting absolutely roasted on that plate?

speaker-1: Didn't C D go for almost two hundred today? Yeah. And he had a couple drops and a couple penalties. He didn't play that long. He still killed like right before the half, that busted coverage. I just sent a laughing emoji to you. It's just comical. And then again, we could be rich men. You still didn't send me the link on how I can just live bet DJ for a pick at the end of the game. That's two out of three weeks. Could've I

speaker-0: Right.

speaker-1: was sitting there on a platter for us to bet on DraftKings or FanDuel or whatever.

speaker-0: Unbelievable.

speaker-1: Two plays later, just like the Vikings game. Boom, game over. No chance

speaker-0: Yeah. This the Colts just shooting themselves in the foot game after game. How about this? Cowboys five hundred and eight total yards to the Colts, two hundred and seventy one. That ain't good.

speaker-1: I'll tell you what the Colts remind me of in Staking. They remind me of either one of two things. A high school offense where you're in a small town, where I'm from, a one A school that is maybe not real established in athletics or something, and you kind of throw together a football team in this very rudimentary offense, right? And you have a couple of good players, but you don't know how to use them. Or just like we did back in 2011. You go, you're 14 and 2 and you're resting everyone the last week, and you put in this preseason, vanilla playbook offense just so no one gets hurt and you're saving your good stuff for the important. We play that all the time. That's

speaker-0: Right.

speaker-1: exactly what I I'm looking at when I watch these guys is this vanilla, and we're supposed to have this offensive guru at the helm. Give me a break.

speaker-0: You're and you're a hundred percent right. Everything is so safe. Safe for the check downs, the little seven to eight yard routes across the middle, the the bubble screens. And hey, I respect him getting the ball in Dolan's hands, and something good actually happens. Maybe go to that more. But you can about know what's gonna go with the Colts. They're gonna try to run JT up the middle. They're gonna try to run him out wide. They're either gonna dump it off to him. They're gonna try and hit Warren on a little six to seven yard little screenplay or across the middle. It's just they're not and obviously missing Alec Pierce is a big piece of the puzzle, not stretching the field at all. I know they tried to go deep to dueling at least once. They keep trying to run the the what? The the end of rounds with the rookie. But and so he's trying to show a little bit, but it's just a small ounce of it, ounce of creativity.

speaker-1: Jones

speaker-0: When you got a

speaker-1: Jones teases me three or four times a game. He drops back, coverage is good. You can tell he's looking deep and he almost hesitates and pump fakes and then he throws that six yarder to Downs or Taylor. You're like, just just let it fly, man. Who cares who gets picked? Just let it fly. Let's have some fun.

speaker-0: Just let it go. Hey, sometimes as good as a punt, right? hey. So But anyway.

speaker-1: Yeah, we gotta get off the Colts here, man. Dolphins in town next week. You know, I'm gonna assume we're gonna be a slight favorite. I don't know why, but I would bet the Dolphins. We have been covering we've covered the last two or three. We covered today. It

speaker-0: Yeah, four and a half.

speaker-1: was and we lost by four. So you could make some money if you're still betting on the Colts.

speaker-0: I wouldn't suggest it.

speaker-1: I do stay away games are probably the way to go.

speaker-0: I did see a lot of people that were posting wins on the under fifty one and a half, I think it was. They eked it out.

speaker-1: They're probably a good under team right now.

speaker-0: Probably. You I think you you called that a couple of weeks ago. You called the Vikings were definitely a good undertaker.

speaker-1: Think about next week, you got Malik Willis. They I bet they have statistically the worst offense in the league besides Minnesota. What was the score in the Minnesota game we lost? It was in the teens. I would expect a game like that again.

speaker-0: And what was it? Sixteen thirteen?

speaker-1: If the over under is thirty eight or over, I'm taking the

speaker-0: Yeah. For sure. Yeah, I yeah, for sure. Yeah. They went nineteen to nine with the Lions today for twenty eight total, so

speaker-1: Yeah, they can hold the Lions to nineteen, so they're gonna hold the Colts to twelve.

speaker-0: yeah. Absolutely. And the Colts Colts might be without Taylor Downs. Who knows who's getting moved by Tuesday. But at any rate.

speaker-1: We've got more bad news for Boilers fans. It was a tough week. Was a homecoming from hell. And I saw it all week. I wasn't here last week. I went on a little birthday journey, a little celebration trip to good old Las Vegas, one of my favorite spots. Hadn't been there in a while. Things have changed. That hard rock guitar where the Mirage used to be is getting real high now. I had never been to T Mobile. Where the bases play, where the knights play. Fantastic venue, by the way. Seats about thirty thousand. Okay. Highly recommended. Not a bad view. I will try to get some graphics on here for the viewers to see. And it's tucked away in between New York, New York, and the old Monte Carlo, which is now Park MGM, back in this corridor. And it's a really cool fan experience. I guess it would be the equivalent of Georgia Street, in Indy. And pretty cool. A lot Purdue travels well. There was four teams playing in this Hall of Fame series to open up college basketball. And we played Gonzaga, which they were ranked 15th. We sucked. They sucked. We lost. And then UCLA and Arizona were there. They did not travel well, even though they're much closer. Purdue definitely showed out in the loss. So that was fun. And then Friday night, if you're a freshman, how cool did you have Or how much did you have this weekend circled if you're a Purdue freshman? First homecoming, right? You've got Valpo coming in, which you paid ninety thousand dollars to play basketball against. They hadn't beaten a Big Ten team since 2004. And you hadn't been 0 2 since the 70s. What could go wrong? And I don't know if you got that game, but it was close. It went into double overtime, and Purdue lost, by the way, on a buzzer beater.

speaker-0: Yeah, I I just caught the caught a few snippets of it, but yeah, rough week for the Boilers basketball team. I will say I was very hard on Daniel Jacobson last year, and I think so far he's been the bright spot for Purdue basketball for sure. Hey, I really wanna ask you, just in the bits and pieces, I did watch the majority of the Gonzaga game, but what in the hell is going on with Omar Mayer? What is that guy doing?

speaker-1: Dude, I don't think I send you the clip. So Painter on Saturday, maybe it was after the game Friday, he ba he called out Meyer.

speaker-0: Okay.

speaker-1: in not so many words, but he says if this has been going on too long with some guys that have been in the program for a couple years, and if they can't play our team game, they will not they can't play f with this program. And it's so it's gotta be about Oscar. And he's only it in in the game there at the end. Because the new point guard West had fouled out. He'd already got benched that game, but he was forced into a roll. And of course he comes in, doesn't play a team game, jacks up a couple threes, almost air balls one of and and we lost.

speaker-0: Yeah, that's that they I will I'll give credit. I know Gonzaga didn't play well, and you didn't think Purdue played that well, but Purdue did fight on Monday night in that game, held it pretty close, and then what probably four or five air balls in the last six or seven minutes of the game from three. Just an atrocious shooting performance from the Boilers. But yeah, and then I got it in the football. I I gotta admit, I really thought this was The bounce back situation for your Boilers football program. I don't know if you knew this or not, but Maryland coming in had the longest conference losing streak in the country. Thirteen straight big ten

speaker-1: The graphic right there. Yeah. They had one since September of five.

speaker-0: And so the Boilers were what, I believe two and a half, three and a half point favorites at home, somewhere in there.

speaker-1: They were favorites somehow.

speaker-0: But boys I knew the boys would be favorites at home with just looking at it. Maryland fired her coach what three weeks ago now. Their fans are delusional. Think they're gonna bring in Signetti or something. But any rate, yeah, Ryan Brown.

speaker-1: Not the guy.

speaker-0: Not look good. I don't know what ease your boy did.

speaker-1: Not great.

speaker-0: But when you give up thirty when you give up thirty four points to Maryland,

speaker-1: Is your boy's he's great in the red zone. He's got nine rushing touchdowns all year. They're all like goal to go, though. He hasn't had a a a big one,

speaker-0: Has hasn't busted a big one.

speaker-1: No. And and so that's back to back weeks where we handed Penn State their first Big Ten win of the year, and then Maryland handed their first Big Ten win of the year. Again, I'm perplexed on that Minnesota game. Again, I have no idea what happened, how we crushed them. Minnesota just had to come in with such dire mental state or something. I I don't understand it. They totally tricked us. They tricked me, they tricked you, they tricked everybody.

speaker-0: Yeah, it doesn't add up. They came in off of that that big win over Michigan. That's the only thing I can stick to is coming in heads way in the clouds off of beating Michigan for the first time in many years. And Purdue played well that game. Obviously Easier Boy ran for what, a hundred and eighty yards and three T Ds.

speaker-1: It's a beast.

speaker-0: And ever since then, what Purdue's now lost to Washington at home, Penn State and now Maryland, is that right? Yeah, the the Washington game really surprised me. Washington came in with their backup quarterback on a Friday night Purdue spotlight game and yeah, they just it

speaker-1: We starting out the year pretty good. I know we lost to Wake Forest and UCLA, but we we kept our own and then we had two straight wins and just gotten worse. And I don't know if you saw the news this morning. Actually, you're the one that sent it to me. They have now fired defensive coordinator this morning, Kevin Kane. he's the scapegoat. And I'll see if I can get the footage for the viewers here, but that one play that I sent you, that's gotta be legally attached to his resume, where they just parted the Red Sea for that. Classic eighty yard touchdown. Well you had guys missing both ways. It was wild.

speaker-0: Is yeah, it was unbelievable and I didn't know 'til you told me that this was his second go round with the boy.

speaker-1: Fire a guy two years ago. So he was in the Walters regime and he'd come over from Illinois when they had that historic defense, which is why Walters got the head coaching gig at Purdue to start with. The year before that, I think Illinois had given up twelve points a game, which was best in the country. So he he parlays that into the Purdue job, brings over Kevin Kane with him. They're terrible on defense for two years. Absolutely pathetic, just like this year. And so he gets fired. He goes to Minnesota last year, becomes their linebacking coach. And for some reason Barry Odom brings him back after he'd been fired. And so he's back half the season. He gets fired again. Like name it name how do you fire a guy twice in less than two years? That there's gotta be some bylaw against that or something.

speaker-0: Unfortunately that just seems like such a Purdue football thing to do right now.

speaker-1: It's like, don't hire your friends. Let's hire people to know what they're doing. And

speaker-0: Right. Yeah.

speaker-1: and that's what basically I owed him statement. He's hey, I knew him as a player. And like, I don't care. Does he get the job done or not?

speaker-0: Yeah, and it's obviously we'll finish up here with Purdue. I we've seen signs from the boilers this year and then these last three weeks it's just like was that just a flash in the pan or what the hell? So who's Purdue have next week?

speaker-1: Here's the thing. We could be sitting here for the old oak and bucket for Purdue to be bowl legible. They just have to win out, man.

speaker-0: That's it.

speaker-1: Just went out.

speaker-0: Who they g who other than IU do they have left?

speaker-1: Like Wisconsin and Iowa and

speaker-0: No one good. No good.

speaker-1: Penn State. We're not winning another game. That's okay.

speaker-0: Probably probably not, but

speaker-1: Hoping the the basketball team can turn around. That's where my hopes and dreams were with the Colts and how the Pacers are looking. I was like, At least I got pretty basketball to look forward to.

speaker-0: I I think your bo boilers basketball is gonna be okay.

speaker-1: In January, when we really start Big Ten play. I am encouraged with Jacobson. He's a beast. He's got that little baby hook down. I think he was just playing with no confidence last year coming off that injury. So

speaker-0: Even as I IU fan, I know Painter will have them ready come big ten seasons.

speaker-1: Speaking of you, I have not watched a lick of them. I know they got a test tomorrow night against Syracuse. Is that a home game or a neutral site game?

speaker-0: so yeah, they're playing at Game Bridge.

speaker-1: I thought I thought it was a neutral site. Okay.

speaker-0: That'd be fine. IU Syracuse at Game Bridge tomorrow night, seven o'clock. The Hoosiers.

speaker-1: Small favor.

speaker-0: yeah, I believe so. Hoosiers are coming off wins over eastern Illinois and Bellerman. But I'll tell you, I I know those are easier off the

speaker-1: Yeah, I'll hype.

speaker-0: play. Yeah, I will say that this is the first time in a long time I am encouraged. IU has minimum of four guys that can really shoot the three, plus they start seven foot Aiden Sheryl. And the seven two guy out of Georgia. So

speaker-1: If they finally have some shooting, perhaps?

speaker-0: But I do think they have some shooting, so we'll

speaker-1: If we're g we're gonna need an Indiana team that at least has some shooting.

speaker-0: Yeah, I IU hasn't had a a good IU I found this out last year, hundred and sixteenth overall in three point shooting. So

speaker-1: Not gonna cut it. Not gonna cut it.

speaker-0: yeah. Definitely encouraged on what I've seen. I know I know they're not household opponents. So tomorrow night will be the first test and then yeah, we'll see. But yep. So things might be looking up for the Hoosiers.

speaker-1: All right. Let's get into what one last big topic here on the Hoosier Beef. And that would be something I think we're both pretty excited about. Even though I record this from Phoenix, I can't see any of this live, unfortunately. But I've been pretty jacked up for the the run to the state title in football this year. I

speaker-0: Yes, sir.

speaker-1: mean, we've got some personal interests and some teams around the state that are still in it. We've obviously got some juggernauts there in central Indiana, including your alma mater. You wanna start with them or you wanna start somewhere else? But

speaker-0: Yeah we have

speaker-1: I'll pull up a map of of matchups here around the

speaker-0: The but big news would be obviously there's big news in all the classes, but Brownsburg rolled over Ben Davis. They were up forty two to seven at halftime, and I do believe that was the final. A repeat of the game they played at Hamill and Southeastern where they scored at well and then they just wanted to give some other guys some some time. But so yeah, so Brownsburg We'll take on Lawrence North. That is a rematch from week one of the season. You have Braden Sharp versus Monshun Sales, both to be at Indiana Hoosiers wide receivers next year. Braden Sharp has to be the favorite for Mr. Football at this time.

speaker-1: Isn't is it north central s or north

speaker-0: Lawrence North.

speaker-1: Don't they have an injury with him?

speaker-0: He has been injured.

speaker-1: know he didn't play against Lawrence Central.

speaker-0: Yeah, he has been injured. I didn't check the box score to see if he played last Friday. Their quarterback has been playing out of his mind, though. He's got a cannon. And in the first matchup against Brownsburg, it was at Lawrence North. They kept it close for two plus quarters. So they do have a chance in that ball game. The other one I'd point to, my adopted alma mater, HSC. Hey, they went to Carmel. And I know I told you. I I I know I told y'all last week. That they were gonna go in there and get slaughtered was not the case for one.

speaker-1: Carmel played a low scoring game.

speaker-0: Seventeen to fourteen final. Greyhounds win. They move on to play Carroll of Fort Wayne. Carroll of Fort Wayne is eleven and one on the season with their one loss coming to Center Grove. Yeah, look at

speaker-1: Jacked up map where they put Fort Wayne for me.

speaker-0: They lost four forty-two to seventeen to Center Grove. And one of my buddies that my buddy that coached at Carmel, we always say teams up north, they really haven't played anybody until you get to regionals or semi-state things of that nature. So we'll find out what Carroll's made of playing this Carmel Greyhounds team. I definitely think Carmel will take some mojo from lackluster performance last Friday in my book. But then down south We've got the rematch from week one as well. Centergrove and Warren Central. Centergrove took the loss to Warren in week one, twenty to fourteen. I think Warren is the one team that poses any threat to Brownsburg. Whether that matchup happens is yet to be seen, but for six A, the

speaker-1: Might be the game to watch if you're looking for a competitive battle, huh? 'Cause

speaker-0: And that's a s yeah, so

speaker-1: Brownsburg, I if you had to handicap that, they're probably still a three touchdown favorite.

speaker-0: Yeah, Bra I think Brownsburg ended up beating them by seventeen or twenty the first time they played. It was forty eight twenty five. Yeah, so you're right. Probably about Brownsburg probably minus twenty one or so at LN for handicapping. But over in five A

speaker-1: Yeah, pull up five A here.

speaker-0: Cathedral and New Pow, probably the two that predominantly run the state in that class. They faced off for the sectional championship last Friday. Seventeen to fourteen ball game with the cathedral coming out on top. So they will travel to Plainfield out in my old neck of the woods in Hendrix County. For sure. don't know a lot about the Quakers football team, but anytime you win a sectional championship, you gotta be pretty good.

speaker-1: Did you know that was Cathedral's eighth hundred win as a program?

speaker-0: I did not.

speaker-1: That's crazy. That's a lot of football.

speaker-0: Quite impressive. And they've obviously put out some extremely good college players and some extremely good pros as well. But hey, one thing, don't sleep on Bloomington South. I pulled up the Sagarin ratings right before the show, right before we came on here. And in the top twelve teams in the state in John Harrell's Sagarin ratings, they were all 6A teams and the Bloomington South came in. I believe it was at number eight or nine. So this Bloomington South team Yeah. They may have some.

speaker-1: They putting on Bloomington North last week.

speaker-0: Yeah, so I will look

speaker-1: Speaking of five A here, have you taken a look at this Lafayette Jeff team?

speaker-0: I have not. I have not.

speaker-1: Go and look at their scores. I believe it would be wrong on stat. I I can't bring it up right now. You can look it up on your phone probably real quick. I'm thinking they have outscored their opponents in three sectional games, one thirty one to six.

speaker-0: my gosh.

speaker-1: I know they won seventy seven to nothing. Or maybe it was eighty four to nothing in one game.

speaker-0: So yeah, they beat yeah, they beat Anderson eighty seven to nothing.

speaker-1: There you go. And then their other two games are very impressive. Not

speaker-0: I don't know what

speaker-1: the competition. Just saying you win by that many, you got something right.

speaker-0: Go for it. They beat they beat Huntington North in the sectional championship forty four to six.

speaker-1: There's just points so they got another shutout or that's they've only played two games.

speaker-0: And three weeks prior to that, they beat Marion seventy one to six. So yeah, this

speaker-1: So they got Signetti Junior up there wanting to run up scores, it sounds like.

speaker-0: Needless to say, let's see if I can find it here. This team, they are of course I can't. Here, let's see. Team stats. So scoring. The Broncos have 75 total touchdowns, which ranks 34th in the country. That's pretty impressive. They. Only average giving up two point nine points a game, is that right? Wow. Wow.

speaker-1: That sounds good.

speaker-0: They've scored four hundred and fifty points on the season. So

speaker-1: If they just kick a field goal every game, they're bound to win almost.

speaker-0: That that's crazy. So we'll see. Let let me see. So they did lose the here's an even crazier stat for you. They actually started the season and two. They lost to Bishop Chittard, which is a powerhouse in Indianapolis. And then they also lost to Maryville in Double O T, which is I believe is a six A school.

speaker-1: Stuff.

speaker-0: Yeah. So yeah, Lafayette Jeff when they're playing in their ballpark so to speak. Tough ball club. All right. So yeah. And then 4A. Who do we got there? I know three A is stacked.

speaker-1: Yeah, so for A, let's pull up for A.

speaker-0: I got it right here. So we've got Muncie Central versus Fort Wayne Dwayne. the big matchup in Fort Yes.

speaker-1: Tori Ron Collie.

speaker-0: That's but I will say sleep on Heritage Hills. Heritage Hills always has one hell of a program down there in southeastern Indiana. So I would say the winner of Bishop Chattard and Ron Collie will be playing Heritage Hills, and that will probably be for the state championship. It won't be the state championship game, but I think whoever wins between the whoever plays next week, the winner is Shatard Ron Collie, and I believe it'll be Heritage Hills. I think that's your state championship.

speaker-1: It's your game of the week in for A. We've got Chattard versus Ron Collie, a a Catholic matchup there. Central.

speaker-0: That'll be absolutely if you can get if you can get a ticket for that game, good luck. That'll be standing room only at Roncali. Okay.

speaker-1: Okay, so fun there. And

speaker-0: Then we get to our favorite class.

speaker-1: We do have some some ties personally in the northern part of the state in three A.

speaker-0: Class three A.

speaker-1: And we also have a couple other bangers in this class. This should be ultra competitive, I would think. Go for it with your Bluffton. You're going to this game on Friday. This will be your game of the week.

speaker-0: My yes, my parents almost are bluffed in. They win their first sectional championship since two thousand

speaker-1: Explain explain for the viewers where Bluffton is in the state. They may not know where that is.

speaker-0: Blufton is about seventy miles north up on s sixty nine from Fisher's.

speaker-1: Call it Fort Wayne area, right? It's south of Fort Wayne.

speaker-0: It's just south of Fort Wayne. Yep. Not too far. And yeah, so Bluffton actually is going to travel to Cicero, Indiana, which is about fifteen minutes up the road from where I live. So what a treat to be able to go watch the old Bluffton Tigers come down here to Hamilton County, take on the Hamilton Heights.

speaker-1: Pretty good about that matchup, huh?

speaker-0: Hamilton Heights Huskies. They have they are really good ball club. All these teams that are left in 3A actually are fantastic clubs. Evansville Memorial is a phenomenal club. Andrean, as you can speak to, is really good. Angola is tough. Tri West, from my old neck of the woods out there close to Brownsburg, they have predominantly, I believe. You remember Sorgi played for the Colts?

speaker-1: I know he went to Tri West. I think you and me, that's probably our mutual school growing up. Equal

speaker-0: Sorry.

speaker-1: distance, 'cause it's there in Lisden. You're in Brownsburg. Yep. I'm I was basically just west of Danville. Tri West, yeah, we're very familiar with they are traveling a long way, by the way, going to the east part of the state from west central Indiana.

speaker-0: So I don't know if you knew this or not. Sorgi's son is the quarterback for the Tri West Blue.

speaker-1: They're good, man.

speaker-0: Yeah. So

speaker-1: Bunts.

speaker-0: we have these I could see six six of these eight teams winning the state championship in three A. Th these teams are that good. Yeah.

speaker-1: I'm tied to Andrea and Mrs. Slick is a an alum from there. That's up in Gary Maryville area. And they're good at everything. And they finally have been moved up to three A. They dominated one A for years and then won two A last year. And IHSA said, Enough of this. You're moving up to three A. They're dominating there again this year. And they're playing an Angola team that I think has a couple of losses. So we'll see.

speaker-0: Yeah, so if Bluffton and Andrean win, I believe they'd face off next week in semi state.

speaker-1: Ooh, be juicy.

speaker-0: Yes, sir.

speaker-1: Well, two A. Let's keep rolling here. I've got ties in two A and one A as well. I'm from Putnam County. South Putnam has been the bell of the ball in two way. That was the game we talked about a couple of weeks ago that you were watching. Where the running back what's his name? He just went off for six touchdowns.

speaker-0: Yeah, their offensive line is just phenomenal.

speaker-1: Yeah, and they're all gonna be back next year. so that's the county I grew up in. And then once we got here Yeah.

speaker-0: Lapel not too far from my neck of the woods. It's yeah, they've always had a pretty good basketball program, but now hey, they're on the up in football as well.

speaker-1: So that'll be a good one. And then

speaker-0: I believe I do believe Brownstown Central is very highly ranked. I know obviously we're down to the final eight, but I think Brownstown Central is either one or two in two A. I know South Putt's obviously number one, but I think Brownstown Central's up there.

speaker-1: Catcha.

speaker-0: Okay. So yeah, I would think the South Putt, Brownstown Central potential semi state game, probably for the championship there.

speaker-1: Excellent. And then finally in class one A, we've got some good teams actually. So I've got some ties to Riverdon Park in Montezuba. That's where my grandma's house is, where my dad grew up. And they are good for the first time. That's a school that was established in the late eighties. And they are rolling. I have some family friends there. And then Pioneer and South Adams, very good programs this year as well.

speaker-0: Absolute banger of a game up there in Bern, Indiana. South Adams is coming off a massive victory over Fremont last Friday, paying tribute to their linebacker that died over the course of last week, was involved in a car crash after their game two weeks ago. Crazy story about that game. So obviously they're paying tribute to their sophomore linebacker that died in the crash before the game. His dad is the defensive coordinator for South Adams and just so happens the opening kickoff of the game, his cousin runs the opening kickoff back ninety five yards for a touchdown. So if if you never believed in a higher power, then that's one to to hang your hat on there. So pretty pretty touching. I know Yeah, I have a close college mate of mine that is big ties to the Byrne community there.

speaker-1: So that sums up some high school stuff for this weekend. So on Friday night, get your phones out, get on there, stream some games. They should be some fun matchups before another big football weekend. This is a great time of year, man. Just great.

speaker-0: Hey, for a lot of you that may not know, if you go to IHSAA dot org and then you scroll down to the bottom, you can hit watch and you can actually watch most of these games for free. Some of them are pay max of like five or six bucks, but most of these games are free televised by the local communities and or schools. And by

speaker-1: And now they should have all, I would think, right?

speaker-0: And so what you can do, I I may just be preaching the choir here, you guys may be way more advanced technology in life, but you can actually put that from your phone onto your T V and watch it in big time. So

speaker-1: Yeah, our y our younger viewers will know how to do that, not our older viewers.

speaker-0: Exactly.

speaker-1: That's called casting, by the way.

speaker-0: Exactly. So you can take it from your phone to the big screen and watch your favorite high school or your favorite rival team. But yeah, some massive games coming up this Friday.

speaker-1: Okay, I've got to do it to you. Who's your beef with this week? Why aren't the Pacers any good? We are sitting at three and seven after we gave them all their accolades, their flowers, whatever you want to call before the season, we predicted way over forty four, forty three and a half wins, and we're off to a terrible start. Are we just gonna blame this on injuries, or do we have some real issues to figure out?

speaker-0: Obviously, when you lose your star again for two weeks, is that what it is? Rick said he was gonna be reevaluated after two weeks.

speaker-1: Reevaluated. I don't think that means back. I think you're looking at a whole month like we did with McConnell.

speaker-0: Come on!

speaker-1: that's what I would say. I'd say we see him back Thanksgiving or after.

speaker-0: my God. That's a good thing Braden Smith from Purdue has been for those of you that didn't see.

speaker-1: Yeah, you well, I was at the Purdue game and you were texting me about the crazy pacer game where they they

speaker-0: Last Monday, this Pacers team, they had six total players that they dressed seven and for whatever reason Obi Toppin was dressed but did not play. I don't know what the reasoning was on that. So they played six players for an entire forty eight minute game.

speaker-1: it was a back to back, right? So Siakam rested. I

speaker-0: He did.

speaker-1: think we were just taking the L on that one regardless. But g yeah, sorry, go ahead.

speaker-0: At any rate, this team played with so much heart. They were so outmatched. It was absolutely unbelievable outmatched on the court. You're talking about CJ McCollum, Nikhil Alexander Walker, all these guys that the Hawks have, and the Hawks have traded away Trey Young and some other guys, but the Pacers, if it weren't for the fact that the Hawks hit eighteen threes in the first half, the Pacers had a real chance in this game and they still did. Braden Smith With his first double double of his career, I believe he had 19 points and what ten assists, twelve assists, maybe, which is crazy because he had eight assists at halftime, but he just did not stop. Him and Slaussen and the the six that were out there, I believe Jay Huff, Kobe

speaker-1: Be brown.

speaker-0: throwing it in from everywhere, Kobe Brown and Quentin Johnson. These guys, you're talking about six guys that

speaker-1: Delay guys, basically.

speaker-0: yeah. That don't normally play a whole lot of minutes and played the entire 48 with these six, and they had cut it, I believe, to one or two points, and then something happened there at the end of the game, and we came up a little bit short. But that was an impressive if there is an impressive loss, that was actually a very fun game to watch. Out of all the games I've watched this season, that game minus the Halley return opening night.

speaker-1: Wednesday, I don't know if you saw Wednesday game, but it was fun. We won at the end with a guy that I think you've got issues with, Neesmith. What's your problem with Neesmith, by the way? He's not shooting.

speaker-0: Neesmith, he man, I don't know. Neesmith two years ago, man, the guy was so clutch. He played great defense. He was just I don't know, he was just Mr. Reliable and I mean his sh

speaker-1: Injured too, man. He hadn't played a he hadn't played every game.

speaker-0: So his shooting percentage has dropped about ten points. The I know he's two years older on the wheels, but the I don't know. He's still a good player. I was really surprised to see Zubotch back. I hadn't heard a an injury update on him, but hey, he's come back I believe with back to back double doubles. If I

speaker-1: I got one concern. It's how he mixes in with this team. Forget Ubre. I think he's a lost cop. But

speaker-0: gosh. Yeah.

speaker-1: and by the way, who is your backup for Neesmith? If you're not gonna play him, who are you putting in? Because you hate Ubre. We don't have Mathrin sitting there anymore. You can play Walker at two. And can he can he play small ball? Toppin can't play that small. He can't handle the ball.

speaker-0: No.

speaker-1: So I don't know who you put in and

speaker-0: Yeah.

speaker-1: you just gotta play it ride it out with him. But the Zoom

speaker-0: Yeah.

speaker-1: Which he was specifically designed to play with Halliburton. And with Halliburton out, I don't know if he knows he did not have a good game. And I preached it in my preview how he stood up to big guys and I pr specifically referenced the Joker and the Joker made him look silly in Mexico City yesterday.

speaker-0: He did. So Yeah, the Pacers got down twenty three at halftime and they did try to claw their way back, so I'll give credit there, but come up a little bit short. The one constant for the Pacers throughout the whole thing has been Nimhard. Guy's been playing tough. I think Siakam and Nimhard, yeah.

speaker-1: Dumb them hard, definitely. DJ came back, played the first half.

speaker-0: Saturday. TJ McConnell back.

speaker-1: Had a lot of lift on that little running jumper, laid out on a ball. I think he's gonna be just fine. They didn't play him the second half. I doubt he plays the second half a lot this week. We got four games, so busy week. Nope.

speaker-0: Paces got four no back to backs, okay. That's good.

speaker-1: Back to backs, and we're pretty much healthy besides Halliburton. Shepherd's pretty much out for the season, I see. What's the season?

speaker-0: Right. what's historic furpee? That's what I was gonna ask.

speaker-1: he ACL surgery in the off season. So I he'll be back next spring at some point. And he was just really starting to come on. So Yeah. He would be a guy a great ship.

speaker-0: Shooter.

speaker-1: Yeah, he would be the Nismith comp there.

speaker-0: Yeah, I mean this whole this whole Kelly Ubre thing I know you warned me I was excited about the signing, but he's been a massive flop.

speaker-1: You're gonna see flashes, man. He's gonna be very exc when we're front runners, he's awesome. But you can't play him in a defensive scramble at the end of a game. He's a liability.

speaker-0: He just can't. He's a and I touched on it last week on the pod. I said the Pacers just need to tread water, try to stay around five hundred until they get Hal Burton back. I don't know that that's possible if he's out till Thanksgiving or December. I just

speaker-1: I mean, they just can't get too far behind the eight ball. Still a lot of basketball to play. I'm excited.

speaker-0: We have seventy sixers this week alongside the

speaker-1: Swiss men. So we get here's the key players we get, right? So we get another look at Cooper Flag. We'll see if he tries we knocked him on his ass. Actually, Neesmith with that hard foul on him, which was turned into a flagrant. We'll see if he's got any ill will and goes off against the Pacers tomorrow. Because that's gonna be at Dallas, our third straight road game. And then when do we have the Wizards? Wednesday.

speaker-0: Wednesday.

speaker-1: Get a look finally at the overall number one pick, AJ.

speaker-0: The banter.

speaker-1: our old friend Anthony Davis and good old Trey Young. They actually have off to a quick start, and I guess Debonsta has really looked pretty solid. So I'm actually see him in person.

speaker-0: Ever since DeBonsta got his minutes restriction lifted, he's really been coming on.

speaker-1: Long man. Just watching highlights. He's crazy long. The

speaker-0: Yeah, he's a fun part of watch.

speaker-1: world champs in on Friday night. who have been off to a rocky start. There's probably still hungover.

speaker-0: Been playing a lot better as of late. Yeah. Brunson went, I believe, for thirty last night in a win at Cleveland.

speaker-1: And then as of now, we gotta travel to the best team in the NBA on Sunday when the Colts are playing the Dolphins. The Pacers will be playing LeBron James.

speaker-0: Good good time for

speaker-1: Max B

speaker-0: I don't really know how that's gonna go. But yeah. So yeah, it's a big week. Yeah, I do you know who the boilers have in basketball this week?

speaker-1: They got a couple of cupcakes. We're gonna rebound. We're gonna rebound just fine.

speaker-0: P Purdue basketball's gonna be all right. If I know anything about Matt Painter, he's

speaker-1: They usually blossom in January, so I'm not gonna panic till then. they didn't I think Painter saw a little bit of this coming because he didn't schedule nearly as aggressively as he has in past years. He's really coming out of the gauntlet with an insane schedule to boost our seating. And this year, besides the Gonzaga game, we really don't have a lot. We've got another Thanksgiving tournament in I don't Wanna say though I think it's in the States this year. It's not the Bahamas. But I'll pull it up real quick.

speaker-0: Not playing in that not playing in that little ballroom down in Puerto Rico again.

speaker-1: Wasn't that funny, right? I went back and watched Edie's first game ever again. It was during COVID in a little gym like that. And it was Jay Nivey's first game. So funny. Illinois State tomorrow.

speaker-0: Okay.

speaker-1: And then we've got let's see. We go a whole week. Friday, Ohio, Lipscom, Oakland. It's nothing crazy till Thanksgiving. But we did lose Devalpo at home, so I don't know what to say.

speaker-0: absolutely love watching that Maui imitational the week of Thanksgiving. Think it's a great tournament.

speaker-1: What's that team out there that always plays? Why am I

speaker-0: Shamanade. Shamanade. Shamanade.

speaker-1: Yeah. When they did they almost beat Virginia when they had Ralph Sampson, right? Yeah. Claim to shame. claim to fame. All right.

speaker-0: Yeah. So

speaker-1: Let's wrap it up for our viewers. We've gone on and on for almost an hour here. And but it's glad to be back. Had a week off. And hopefully we have a better week this week. What do you say?

speaker-0: let's hope we have some good news next Sunday. Let's

speaker-1: We beat the dolphins.

speaker-0: let's hey keep your eyes out, trade deadline, four PM Tuesday. See what happens with the Colts, who they're gonna move on from.

speaker-1: Maybe an emergency pod when we get three first for J T, huh?

speaker-0: Does Shane Steichen still have a job this week? There's a lot of questions around the Colts organization, but hey, thanks for joining us on another edition of Who's Your Beef? And we'll catch you next-

speaker-1: We see it.